NicoleRaleigh said:Say what you would expect to see if you were wrong, before you look.
That is right, and it stops being right at the edges. The general case is well behaved; the interesting cases in this thread are all at the boundary where the general case breaks.
Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion. Almost every disagreement here turns out to be two people measuring different things and comparing the numbers anyway.
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Browse GL BiochemSleepDoc_PDX said:Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.
Mine went the same way, slower. Posting only so the count is not one.
SleepDoc_PDX said:Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.
There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The distinction that resolves most of these threads is between what is true on average and what is true for one person. Both are real; they answer different questions and get quoted as if they were the same one.