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Dose escalation too fast? Recognizing over-titration symptoms — need advice

jennifer_SEA Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 3:44 PM 12 replies 1,701 viewsPage 2 of 3
amsterdam_pete
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Dec 28, 2024 at 7:54 PM#6
SarahChen_PharmD said:
The trials generally allowed a step to be held or reduced and then retried, and people who did that mostly arrived at the same place a few weeks…

I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability. The maintenance and regain data cluster at the top doses, so a ladder abandoned halfway leaves you outside the evidence base for the part that matters most — keeping it off.

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dave_SLC
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Dec 28, 2024 at 9:32 PM#7
jennifer_SEA said:
I titrated faster than the label because I felt fine, hit a wall at the third step, and had to come back down — which I now think was the predictable…

Dose escalation anxiety for titration: I was terrified to move from 0.5mg to 1.0mg based on horror stories in this forum. But my actual experience? Slightly more appetite suppression, zero additional side effects.

Remember that the people posting about terrible side effects are a biased sample. Most people titrate up without drama — they just don't post about it because it's uneventful.

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Dec 28, 2024 at 11:10 PM#8
amsterdam_pete said:
I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false. If nothing would look different, it is not a claim about the world and no amount of discussion will settle it.

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Dec 29, 2024 at 12:48 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What the trials actually did with participants who could not tolerate a step, because that is the situation I am in and the protocol summaries skip it?

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Dec 29, 2024 at 8:38 AM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Closing this out: I held the step for six weeks rather than four and it settled without a dose change. The interval was the answer, not the dose.

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