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Price comparison: compounded semaglutide — anyone have experience?

PeptideSynthNJ Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 4:21 AM 28 replies 1,976 viewsPage 1 of 6
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Jan 20, 2025 at 4:21 AM#1

Read the primary source rather than the write-up and the two do not agree, so here is what is actually in it.

They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

Where I think it is weakest: the follow-up is short relative to how long people actually take these drugs, so durability is an assumption here rather than a finding.

The narrow version of the question is why a shortage listing created a legal pathway at all, since a shortage is a supply fact rather than a permission. Tell me what I have not thought of.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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Jan 20, 2025 at 4:29 AM#2
PeptideSynthNJ said:
They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things.

No disagreement with PeptideSynthNJ. One condition attached. Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists. For 503B the shortage clause was the only route to these molecules, so that route shut completely. A 503A pharmacy can still argue a doorway via "component of an approved drug" — but only for the substance in the form present in the approved product, which is exactly where the base-versus-salt argument lives, and it does nothing about the copy restriction, which came back into force on resolution.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

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Jan 20, 2025 at 4:37 AM#3
PeptideSynthNJ said:
They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. A research-chemical supplier selling lyophilised powder labelled research use only is not compounding and is not claiming to. It is a different legal universe with no pharmacy oversight, no patient relationship and no content guarantee, and conflating the two in these threads helps nobody.

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Jan 20, 2025 at 4:45 AM#4

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Jan 20, 2025 at 5:24 AM#5
PharmD_Rodriguez said:
Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists.

Agreed, though "tolerable" needs defining. A dose you tolerate by eating almost nothing is not tolerated, it is being paid for somewhere else — usually in lean mass, sometimes in adherence three months later.

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