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⚠ Swiss Chems FDA warning letter December 2024 — my results so far

Dr.SportsMedIN Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 6:28 AM 8 replies 1,447 viewsPage 2 of 2
BiostatsBrad
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Apr 6, 2025 at 8:31 AM#6
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Vendor reputation tracking for vendor vetting: I maintain a personal spreadsheet with every order I've placed — date, vendor, batch number, Janoshik result, personal efficacy assessment (1-5 scale), and any issues.

After 16 orders across 4 vendors: average purity 97.0%, zero sterility concerns, 2 shipping issues (all resolved). This data gives me confidence in my current source and documentation if issues arise.

I encourage everyone to track their orders systematically. Community data aggregation makes us all safer.

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Apr 6, 2025 at 9:19 AM#7

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake?

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Apr 6, 2025 at 10:07 AM#8
BiostatsBrad said:
Vendor reputation tracking for vendor vetting: I maintain a personal spreadsheet with every order I've placed — date, vendor, batch number, Janoshik…

Shipping damage protocol for vendor vetting orders: if your package arrives with visible damage, temperature excursion, or broken vials:

  • Photograph EVERYTHING before discarding packaging
  • Note the temperature of the cold pack (liquid = possibly too warm)
  • Contact the vendor within 24 hours with photos
  • Request a replacement shipment or refund
  • Do NOT use potentially compromised medication

Reputable vendors will replace damaged shipments without argument. If they push back, that's a red flag about the vendor.

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Dr.SportsMedIN
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Apr 6, 2025 at 10:55 AM#9

Reporting back.

Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.

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Apr 6, 2025 at 2:45 PM#10
Dr.GastroMayo said:
Shipping damage protocol for vendor vetting orders: if your package arrives with visible damage, temperature excursion, or broken vials: Photograph…

Agreed, with a caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator. Reports arrive weeks after orders, so a supplier can look excellent for a month after quality has already changed.

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