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Reporting scam vendors — 6 month update

PurityPaulOR Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 9:18 AM 12 replies 1,708 viewsPage 1 of 3
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PurityPaulOR
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Nov 12, 2024 at 9:18 AM#1

Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any single result.

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

What I am trying to establish is how people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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LibrarianMeg
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Nov 12, 2024 at 9:30 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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SkepticalSean
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Nov 12, 2024 at 9:42 AM#3
LibrarianMeg said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Agreed, with a caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator. Reports arrive weeks after orders, so a supplier can look excellent for a month after quality has already changed.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 9:54 AM#4
PurityPaulOR said:
Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Dr.PeteFamMed
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Nov 12, 2024 at 10:59 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Vendor reputation tracking for vendor vetting: I maintain a personal spreadsheet with every order I've placed — date, vendor, batch number, Janoshik result, personal efficacy assessment (1-5 scale), and any issues.

After 17 orders across 5 vendors: average purity 98.1%, zero sterility concerns, 0 shipping issues (all resolved). This data gives me confidence in my current source and documentation if issues arise.

I encourage everyone to track their orders systematically. Community data aggregation makes us all safer.

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