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Math is hard - help me with reconstitution please — May 2025

TrialTracker_MD Thu, May 16, 2024 at 7:05 AM 10 replies 2,033 viewsPage 1 of 2
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TrialTracker_MD
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May 16, 2024 at 7:05 AM#1

I reconstituted a 10mg vial with 2ml of bacteriostatic water and I want someone to check my unit arithmetic before I draw anything, because I keep getting two different answers.

The three numbers to write on the vial: total mg, total ml, and mg per ml. Everything else is division. And the sanity check is that dose volume times number of doses should be less than the volume you put in, because dead space takes the difference.

What I am after is how much material I am losing to dead space, and whether that explains why a 10mg vial gives me nine usable draws rather than ten.

Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

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May 16, 2024 at 8:27 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Dead space is the answer to the missing dose. A fixed-needle insulin syringe holds a few microlitres in the hub and needle after the plunger bottoms out, and on small draws that is a measurable percentage of every dose. Across ten draws it adds up to most of an eleventh, which is exactly the "nine draws from a ten-dose vial" complaint. Luer-lock syringes are worse; low-dead-space fixed-needle designs are better.

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May 16, 2024 at 9:49 AM#3
LipidDoc_ATL said:
Dead space is the answer to the missing dose.

Agreed, and it is worth saying that rounding to the nearest whole unit is usually acceptable at maintenance doses and is not acceptable at the bottom of a ladder, where one unit can be a fifth of the intended dose.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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May 16, 2024 at 11:11 AM#4
TrialTracker_MD said:
I reconstituted a 10mg vial with 2ml of bacteriostatic water and I want someone to check my unit arithmetic before I draw anything, because I keep…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Do it in two steps and it stops being confusing. First concentration: 10mg into 2ml is 5mg/ml. Then volume: a 0.5mg dose is 0.5 ÷ 5 = 0.1ml. Then units, and this is where people go wrong — a U-100 syringe is graduated in hundredths of a millilitre, so 0.1ml is 10 units. The word "units" has nothing to do with milligrams; it is a volume marking that exists because insulin happens to come at 100 units per ml.

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May 16, 2024 at 7:08 PM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Peptide calculator app recommendation for dosing arithmetic: I use PeptideCalc to calculate reconstitution volumes and injection doses. Eliminates math errors completely.

Input: vial size (mg), desired concentration (mg/mL), prescribed dose (mg)
Output: BAC water volume (mL), injection volume (units on insulin syringe)

A math error with injectable medication can mean underdosing or overdosing. Use a calculator every time until the math becomes second nature.

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