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My doctor says stay on 1mg but I feel like I need more — anyone have experience?

AussieAnna Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 3:35 PM 42 replies 2,345 viewsPage 1 of 9
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AussieAnna
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Apr 4, 2024 at 3:35 PM#1

I titrated faster than the label because I felt fine, hit a wall at the third step, and had to come back down — which I now think was the predictable outcome rather than bad luck.

What I am after is what the trials actually did with participants who could not tolerate a step, because that is the situation I am in and the protocol summaries skip it.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Apr 4, 2024 at 4:30 PM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Four weeks is the pharmacokinetics, not caution. With a one-week half-life you need four to five half-lives to reach steady state, so at two weeks you are dosing on top of a concentration that has not finished rising. Escalating then stacks exposure and you get the side-effect burden of the higher dose before you have seen the benefit of the current one.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Apr 4, 2024 at 5:25 PM#3
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
Four weeks is the pharmacokinetics, not caution.

That is right for the weekly injectables. For the daily agents the interval logic is different and the four-week convention does not transfer.

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Apr 4, 2024 at 6:20 PM#4
AussieAnna said:
I titrated faster than the label because I felt fine, hit a wall at the third step, and had to come back down — which I now think was the predictable…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Holding longer is the underrated move. A step that is uncomfortable at week two is frequently comfortable at week six with no change in dose, because the gastric-emptying component tachyphylaxes while the appetite effect persists. Escalating at week two throws that adaptation away.

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Apr 4, 2024 at 11:33 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

PSA for titration users considering the 0.25mg starting dose: this dose is NOT intended for weight loss. It's a titration dose to let your body adjust. Don't be discouraged if you don't lose much in the first month.

The therapeutic dose for weight management starts at 1.7mg (semaglutide) or 5mg (tirzepatide). Be patient with the ramp-up.

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