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Has anyone dealt with what vendors shut down in 2025? the full list is scary?

TrialNerd_Beth Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 1:34 AM 26 replies 2,047 viewsPage 1 of 6
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TrialNerd_Beth
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Sep 12, 2024 at 1:34 AM#1

Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

What I am after is how people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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LipidDoc_ATL
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Sep 12, 2024 at 2:39 AM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 3:45 AM#3
LipidDoc_ATL said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Agreed, with a caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator. Reports arrive weeks after orders, so a supplier can look excellent for a month after quality has already changed.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 4:51 AM#4
TrialNerd_Beth said:
Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 11:07 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Shipping damage protocol for vendor vetting orders: if your package arrives with visible damage, temperature excursion, or broken vials:

  • Photograph EVERYTHING before discarding packaging
  • Note the temperature of the cold pack (liquid = possibly too warm)
  • Contact the vendor within 24 hours with photos
  • Request a replacement shipment or refund
  • Do NOT use potentially compromised medication

Reputable vendors will replace damaged shipments without argument. If they push back, that's a red flag about the vendor.

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