A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?
A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?
andrew_nyc said:Steady state is the thing most people miss.
I will push back on the "any working dose is fine" framing. The maintenance evidence sits overwhelmingly at the top studied dose, and the extension data shows regain tracking dose reduction rather than tracking stopping. Holding low is reasonable; pretending it is evidentially equivalent is not.
andrew_nyc said:Steady state is the thing most people miss.
andrew_nyc said:...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...
I understand the concern, but consider this analogy: are we "creating a generation dependent on" blood pressure medication? Cholesterol medication? Thyroid medication?
Obesity is a chronic disease with biological drivers. Treating it with medication is no different from treating any other chronic condition. The "dependency" framing implies weakness or moral failure — neither of which is accurate.
If ongoing medication is what keeps someone healthy, that's successful treatment, not dependency.
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Shop Reference Standardsandrew_nyc said:Steady state is the thing most people miss.
Bookmarking. The distinction being drawn above is the one nobody else makes. Taking it to my next appointment.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly.
Vitamin deficiency cascade with cardiovascular risk: after 6+ months of reduced food intake, I developed a subtle but important pattern: low B12 → elevated homocysteine → increased cardiovascular risk marker.
The connection: B12 is a cofactor for homocysteine metabolism. Without adequate B12, homocysteine accumulates. This is ironic — taking a CV-protective medication while developing a CV risk factor from reduced nutrition.
Solution: comprehensive vitamin supplementation and regular lab monitoring. Don't let the medication's benefits be undermined by nutritional deficiencies.