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cAMP signaling cascade from GLP-1R activation — need advice

LondonLisa Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 3:28 AM 13 replies 1,952 viewsPage 1 of 3
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LondonLisa
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Sep 24, 2024 at 3:28 AM#1

I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer nobody states.

What would genuinely help is knowing which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 3:45 AM#2
LondonLisa said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

Pharmacist here. I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Key points from a pharmacokinetic standpoint:

  • GLP-1 agonists delay gastric emptying, which can affect Tmax of co-administered oral medications
  • Monitor patients on warfarin (INR), levothyroxine (TSH), and oral contraceptives during dose titration
  • The albumin-binding mechanism of semaglutide (C-18 fatty acid linker) gives it the ~168-hour half-life that enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state is reached at approximately 4-5 weeks after dose initiation or adjustment

Re: the pharmacology specifically — the pharmacology here is well-characterized and the clinical implications are straightforward.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 4:02 AM#3
PurityPaulOR said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here. Albumin binding above 99% slows clearance enough to make weekly dosing possible; a terminal half-life near a week means four to five weeks to steady state and therefore a four-week titration interval; subcutaneous bioavailability around 89% means injection site barely matters. Those three facts answer most timing questions before they are asked.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 4:19 AM#4
LondonLisa said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 5:49 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

References:
[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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