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Cost projections for oral non-peptide GLP-1 agonists — what worked for you?

LeilaHI Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 1:21 AM 18 replies 1,817 viewsPage 1 of 4
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LeilaHI
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Nov 24, 2024 at 1:21 AM#1

I have been following the oral non-peptide data since phase 2 and I am trying to work out how much of the enthusiasm here is about efficacy and how much is about not having to inject.

What I am after is whether a non-peptide oral agonist can match injectable exposure in practice, or whether the convenience is bought with a lower ceiling.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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NurseKim_ATL
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Nov 24, 2024 at 3:18 AM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that. Get the denial reason in writing, because it names the criterion you failed. Then supply the documentation that criterion asks for — usually documented BMI with a comorbidity, or a failed prior therapy. Then appeal, and ask for a peer-to-peer review, because a prescriber talking to a reviewing clinician resolves a large fraction of denials that written appeals do not. Manufacturer copay assistance is separate and applies mainly to commercial insurance, and patient assistance programmes are means-tested rather than a discount.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 5:15 AM#3
NurseKim_ATL said:
Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that.

Agreeing with NurseKim_ATL, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. Orforglipron is a small molecule rather than a peptide, which is the whole point: no SNAC absorption enhancer, no fasting window, no cold chain, and oral bioavailability in the tens of percent instead of around one. Phase 2 put it near 14.7% weight loss at 36 weeks on the top dose with a side-effect profile that looks like the injectables.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 7:12 AM#4
LeilaHI said:
I have been following the oral non-peptide data since phase 2 and I am trying to work out how much of the enthusiasm here is about efficacy and how…

Agreed, and coverage criteria are plan-specific rather than insurer-specific. Two people with the same insurer and different employers have different rules, which is why "my insurer covers it" is not transferable information.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 6:43 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated. Those two sets overlap less than the confident tone of most write-ups suggests, and the second set is where nearly all the disagreement on this board comes from.

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