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Oral sema absorption enhancer SNAC — anyone have experience?

dave_SLC Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 11:27 PM 55 replies 2,928 viewsPage 1 of 11
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dave_SLC
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Apr 4, 2024 at 11:27 PM#1

On 25mg oral, four months in, and my results are closer to the low-dose injectable arm than to the numbers being quoted for 50mg.

The narrow version of the question is how much of the oral variability is the SNAC absorption window and how much is dose, because the two get conflated constantly.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Apr 5, 2024 at 1:37 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to get there because almost none of the tablet is absorbed. The dose numbers are not comparable across routes and quoting them side by side confuses people.

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Apr 5, 2024 at 3:47 AM#3
DataDave said:
The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…

DataDave has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. Worth adding that the tablet is taken daily, so a missed dose costs far less than a missed weekly injection. That is a genuine advantage nobody lists.

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Apr 5, 2024 at 5:57 AM#4
dave_SLC said:
On 25mg oral, four months in, and my results are closer to the low-dose injectable arm than to the numbers being quoted for 50mg.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Oral semaglutide is absorbed in the stomach with the help of SNAC, which locally raises pH and protects the peptide long enough to cross. That mechanism is fragile: bioavailability is roughly 1% and highly sensitive to gastric contents, so a mouthful of coffee genuinely changes the exposure. This is why the label wants 30 minutes and no more than half a glass of plain water.

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Apr 5, 2024 at 6:48 PM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. The mechanism and the magnitude are separate questions. Agreeing that something happens says nothing about whether it happens enough to act on.

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