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Compounded sema potency testing — what worked for you?

Dr.PathRoch Thu, Aug 7, 2025 at 8:38 PM 13 replies 1,517 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Aug 7, 2025 at 8:38 PM#1

Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within weeks of each other.

What I am after is what actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Aug 7, 2025 at 8:56 PM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Aug 7, 2025 at 9:14 PM#3
TirzTom said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Agreeing with TirzTom, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. Worth adding the genuine exception, because it is real and narrow: a change made for an identified patient where the prescriber determines it produces a significant clinical difference for that patient. A grid of fixed doses offered to everybody is not that, whatever the intake form says.

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Aug 7, 2025 at 9:32 PM#4
Dr.PathRoch said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

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Aug 7, 2025 at 11:08 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Compounding pharmacy response time test for compounded supply: I email customer service at odd hours to test responsiveness. A pharmacy that can't answer questions promptly is a red flag.

My current pharmacy: average response time same day. They answered my questions about sterility testing thoroughly and professionally.

Communication quality is a proxy for operational quality. A pharmacy that communicates well is likely manufacturing well too.

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