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International compounding regulations — looking for input

SandraNC_45 Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 11:46 PM 25 replies 1,608 viewsPage 2 of 5
PeptideChemSF
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Jul 3, 2025 at 12:53 AM#6

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Two things anyone can check: a state licence number for a 503A, and an FDA outsourcing-facility registration for a 503B. Both are publicly searchable, and a pharmacy unwilling to give you either has answered the question.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Jul 3, 2025 at 1:19 AM#7

One thing that is still open after NurseLeah_Nash’s answer:

Why a shortage listing created a legal pathway at all, since a shortage is a supply fact rather than a permission?

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Jul 3, 2025 at 1:45 AM#8
PeptideChemSF said:
Two things anyone can check: a state licence number for a 503A, and an FDA outsourcing-facility registration for a 503B.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Jul 3, 2025 at 2:11 AM#9

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

The bulks-list asymmetry was the piece I had missed entirely. It explains why one of my two pharmacies is still arguing it can supply and the other simply stopped.

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Jul 3, 2025 at 4:16 AM#10
anders_CPH said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Agreed, and the enforcement dates were staggered by category — 503A first, 503B a few weeks later — because outsourcing facilities have manufactured inventory and clinic contracts to unwind while a 503A makes to order.

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