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The psychology of plateaus — 6 month update

NauseaFreeNow Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1:24 PM 25 replies 2,391 viewsPage 1 of 5
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NauseaFreeNow
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Jul 9, 2024 at 1:24 PM#1

This gets cited here weekly, usually second-hand, so it is worth setting out what it does and does not establish.

Genuine plateaus happen too, and the mechanism is metabolic adaptation plus a smaller body. A body 20kg lighter needs meaningfully fewer calories at rest and less to move, so the deficit that produced the first phase is arithmetically smaller now. The options are the honest ones — increase the deficit slightly, increase activity, or accept the new plateau — and escalating the dose is only one of them.

Where I think it is weakest: the subgroup findings are the part I trust least — with enough subgroups something is always significant, and these were not all pre-registered.

What would genuinely help is knowing how to distinguish a genuine plateau from measurement noise and creeping intake, before changing anything. I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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RetaRick_CA
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Jul 9, 2024 at 1:30 PM#2
NauseaFreeNow said:
Genuine plateaus happen too, and the mechanism is metabolic adaptation plus a smaller body.

Plateau breaking story with a stall: I stalled at 218 lbs for 5 weeks. Tried everything — calorie cycling, increased exercise, more water. Nothing worked.

What finally broke the plateau: switching from evening to morning injection. Lost 7 lbs in the next 2 weeks. Plateaus are temporary — they always break if you stay consistent.

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COA_Karl
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Jul 9, 2024 at 1:36 PM#3
NauseaFreeNow said:
Genuine plateaus happen too, and the mechanism is metabolic adaptation plus a smaller body.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. The "it is your intake" reflex here gets tiring. Some people genuinely stop responding at a dose that worked, and telling them to track harder when they have already tracked is how people stop posting.

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Jul 9, 2024 at 1:42 PM#4

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Most reported plateaus are not plateaus. Weight is a noisy signal — daily variation of one to two kilograms from glycogen, sodium and gut contents — so a fortnight of flat readings is well inside the noise band. Before concluding anything, look at a rolling weekly average over at least four weeks and at a tape measure, because recomposition shows up in circumference before it shows up in weight. Then track intake honestly for a week: appetite suppression fades unevenly, and intake creeping back up is the single commonest cause.

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Jul 9, 2024 at 2:12 PM#5
RetaRick_CA said:
Plateau breaking story with a stall: I stalled at 218 lbs for 5 weeks.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale.

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