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Has anyone dealt with dumb question - what is bacteriostatic water exactly?

NauseaFreeNow Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 10:28 PM 49 replies 2,765 viewsPage 1 of 10
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Apr 4, 2024 at 10:28 PM#1

Two of us with identical vials and identical diluent arrived at different unit counts, which means one of us has a conceptual error rather than a rounding error.

The narrow version of the question is how to check the arithmetic without trusting a website calculator, since three calculators gave me three answers.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Apr 4, 2024 at 11:22 PM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Dead space is the answer to the missing dose. A fixed-needle insulin syringe holds a few microlitres in the hub and needle after the plunger bottoms out, and on small draws that is a measurable percentage of every dose. Across ten draws it adds up to most of an eleventh, which is exactly the "nine draws from a ten-dose vial" complaint. Luer-lock syringes are worse; low-dead-space fixed-needle designs are better.

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Apr 5, 2024 at 12:16 AM#3
LarryQC_SD said:
Dead space is the answer to the missing dose.

Agreeing with LarryQC_SD, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. The arithmetic is right and one caveat matters: a U-40 syringe changes the markings, not the volumes. If someone hands you U-40 and you read it as U-100 you will be 2.5 times out, and that error has a direction — it is always an overdose.

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Apr 5, 2024 at 1:10 AM#4
NauseaFreeNow said:
Two of us with identical vials and identical diluent arrived at different unit counts, which means one of us has a conceptual error rather than a…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Do it in two steps and it stops being confusing. First concentration: 10mg into 2ml is 5mg/ml. Then volume: a 0.5mg dose is 0.5 ÷ 5 = 0.1ml. Then units, and this is where people go wrong — a U-100 syringe is graduated in hundredths of a millilitre, so 0.1ml is 10 units. The word "units" has nothing to do with milligrams; it is a volume marking that exists because insulin happens to come at 100 units per ml.

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Apr 5, 2024 at 6:17 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Bacteriostatic water quality matters for dosing arithmetic reconstitution. Not all BAC water is created equal:

  • Should contain 0.9% benzyl alcohol as preservative
  • Must be sterile and pyrogen-free
  • Should come in a sealed, intact vial
  • Check expiration date — yes, BAC water expires
  • Store at room temperature, protected from light

I buy from a reputable medical supply company, not Amazon marketplace sellers. The $3 savings isn't worth the infection risk from unverified BAC water.

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