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Mounjaro pen vs compounded vial - pros and cons? — looking for input

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Dr.NateNeph
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Jul 9, 2024 at 12:08 PM#6

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Practical numbers: half-life about 5 days, steady state 3 to 4 weeks, ladder 2.5 / 5 / 7.5 / 10 / 12.5 / 15mg, and the maintenance doses with published data behind them are 5, 10 and 15mg.

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Jul 9, 2024 at 12:38 PM#7

Following on from james_edin — and this may be the naive question:

What actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material?

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Jul 9, 2024 at 1:08 PM#8
Dr.NateNeph said:
Practical numbers: half-life about 5 days, steady state 3 to 4 weeks, ladder 2.5 / 5 / 7.5 / 10 / 12.5 / 15mg, and the maintenance doses with…

Coming at Dr.NateNeph’s question from a different direction. Steady state is faster than people expect: half-life about five days, so you are at plateau in roughly three to four weeks rather than five. That matters when you are deciding whether a dose step has finished expressing itself.

Worth separating that from tirzepatide, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

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Jul 9, 2024 at 1:38 PM#9

Reporting back.

The bulks-list asymmetry was the piece I had missed entirely. It explains why one of my two pharmacies is still arguing it can supply and the other simply stopped.

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Jul 9, 2024 at 4:02 PM#10
Dr.ObesityMed said:
Steady state is faster than people expect: half-life about five days, so you are at plateau in roughly three to four weeks rather than five.

Dr.ObesityMed has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. Worth adding the genuine exception, because it is real and narrow: a change made for an identified patient where the prescriber determines it produces a significant clinical difference for that patient. A grid of fixed doses offered to everybody is not that, whatever the intake form says.

Worth separating that from tirzepatide, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

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