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Will reta make sema and tirz obsolete? — my results so far

raj_cambridge Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:58 PM 45 replies 1,803 viewsPage 6 of 9
roxy_nash
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Oct 15, 2025 at 1:48 PM#26

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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Oct 18, 2025 at 11:08 PM#27
roxy_nash said:
The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale.

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Oct 22, 2025 at 8:26 AM#28
roxy_nash said:
The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.

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Oct 25, 2025 at 5:42 PM#29

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. If you are going to change something, change one thing and give it long enough to express itself. Four weeks is the usual minimum for anything pharmacological on this board, and two weeks of data has told you almost nothing.

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Oct 29, 2025 at 2:56 AM#30

Closing the loop on my own question.

Closing this out. What actually changed my mind was the point about waiting for a trend instead of reading a single measurement, which is embarrassing in hindsight and worth saying anyway.

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