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P2P payment apps (Venmo/Zelle) for pharmacy — 6 month update

HPLC_Greg Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 3:24 PM 28 replies 1,421 viewsPage 1 of 6
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Jan 3, 2026 at 3:24 PM#1

Posting this because the summary going around does not say what the paper says, and the difference matters for how people here are using it.

The trade-off is reversibility against privacy and there is no option that gives you both. Card payments are reversible and disclose the most; crypto discloses least and is irreversible, which is precisely why pressure toward it is a warning sign when it comes from a seller rather than a buyer. Escrow only means anything where the escrow agent is independent of both parties, which is rarely the case in practice.

Where I think it is weakest: the completion rate deserves as much attention as the headline, because a large effect among those who finished is a different claim from a large effect among those enrolled.

What would genuinely help is knowing how people are thinking about the trade-off between reversibility and privacy, because you cannot have both. Tell me what I have not thought of.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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Jan 3, 2026 at 4:44 PM#2
HPLC_Greg said:
The trade-off is reversibility against privacy and there is no option that gives you both.

Correct, and worth adding that it is reversible. Nothing being described here is a one-way door, which changes how cautious it is reasonable to be.

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Jan 3, 2026 at 6:04 PM#3
HPLC_Greg said:
The trade-off is reversibility against privacy and there is no option that gives you both.

Pushing back on HPLC_Greg here. I would resist the confidence. Half of what this board was certain about two years ago has since been quietly dropped, and nobody went back to correct the threads.

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Jan 3, 2026 at 7:24 PM#4

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.

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Jan 4, 2026 at 3:07 AM#5
TirzTom said:
Correct, and worth adding that it is reversible.

Same pattern here, and in the same order.

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