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Retatrutide and blood pressure — need advice

Dr.RenalNash Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 8:12 PM 43 replies 2,143 viewsPage 3 of 9
TirzTom
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Jun 5, 2025 at 8:28 AM#11
PeptideChemSF said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling, reduces NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreases monocyte/macrophage adhesion to endothelium[1].

Clinical correlates: hsCRP reduction of 30-60% (consistently seen across trials), reduced carotid intima-media thickness, and decreased coronary plaque inflammation on PET imaging.

These anti-inflammatory effects likely contribute to the cardiovascular benefit seen in SELECT — and may explain benefits beyond what weight loss alone would predict.

References:
[1] Hogan AE, et al. Diabetologia. 2014;57(4):781-784.
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Jun 5, 2025 at 12:17 PM#12
Dr.NutriCornell said:
Fair, but phase 2 tolerability figures rarely survive contact with phase 3 scale.

Saving this. It is the first explanation that did not require me to already understand it.

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Jun 5, 2025 at 4:06 PM#13
PeptideChemSF said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

I would rather people stopped quoting the 24% as if it were a licensed outcome. It is a phase 2 result in a few hundred participants with no cardiovascular endpoint and no long-term safety data, and this board has a habit of treating pipeline numbers as settled.

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Jun 5, 2025 at 7:55 PM#14
Dr.RenalNash said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

References:
[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Jun 5, 2025 at 11:44 PM#15

Moderator note: the sourcing question belongs in the vendor section and has been split out. Carry on.

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