DanielChem_CHI said:If you are going to change something, change one thing and give it long enough to express itself.
Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly. Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion. Almost every disagreement here turns out to be two people measuring different things and comparing the numbers anyway.
roxy_nash said:Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.
Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale. Nothing to add that would improve it.
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Shop Reference Standardsroxy_nash said:Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.
Coming at roxy_nash’s question from a different direction. There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.
If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.
Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the same conditions. Nobody wants that answer and it is still the answer.