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Cryptocurrency payment adoption by compounding pharmacies — what worked for you?

robert_kc Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:11 AM 16 replies 2,301 viewsPage 1 of 4
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robert_kc
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Feb 22, 2024 at 11:11 AM#1

Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within weeks of each other.

The narrow version of the question is what actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Dr.SurgeonPGH
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Feb 22, 2024 at 11:38 AM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 12:05 PM#3
Dr.SurgeonPGH said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Agreeing with Dr.SurgeonPGH, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. Worth adding the genuine exception, because it is real and narrow: a change made for an identified patient where the prescriber determines it produces a significant clinical difference for that patient. A grid of fixed doses offered to everybody is not that, whatever the intake form says.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 12:32 PM#4
robert_kc said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

Can confirm the pattern robert_kc describes. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 3:00 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Compounding pharmacy response time test for compounded supply: I email customer service at odd hours to test responsiveness. A pharmacy that can't answer questions promptly is a red flag.

My current pharmacy: average response time same day. They answered my questions about sterility testing thoroughly and professionally.

Communication quality is a proxy for operational quality. A pharmacy that communicates well is likely manufacturing well too.

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