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AOD-9604 — what worked for you?

DadBodDave Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 3:03 PM 11 replies 814 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Mar 24, 2026 at 3:03 PM#1

A reference post rather than a discussion. Corrections are the point; I would rather this be right than mine. It is about the pharmacology, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here. Albumin binding above 99% slows clearance enough to make weekly dosing possible; a terminal half-life near a week means four to five weeks to steady state and therefore a four-week titration interval; subcutaneous bioavailability around 89% means injection site barely matters. Those three facts answer most timing questions before they are asked.

The condition it depends on

The adaptation point cuts both ways: tachyphylaxis to gastric emptying is why tolerability improves, and it is also why people who were relying on physical fullness feel the effect fade while the appetite effect is still working.

The practical version

Numbers worth memorising for this class: Tmax one to three days for the weekly peptides, terminal half-life about a week for semaglutide and about five days for tirzepatide, steady state at four to five half-lives, subcutaneous bioavailability high enough that site choice is irrelevant.

What I am not sure about

What I actually want to know is which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working. I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

— DadBodDave · corrections welcome and will be edited into this post with credit
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Mar 24, 2026 at 4:23 PM#2
DadBodDave said:
The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here.

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

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Mar 24, 2026 at 5:43 PM#3
DadBodDave said:
The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here.

I read this differently from DadBodDave, on substance rather than tone. The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest. Receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus activates POMC neurons and inhibits AgRP/NPY signalling, and the downstream MC4R pathway is the same one disrupted in monogenic obesity — convergent genetic evidence that the target is the right one. Peripherally there is glucose-dependent insulin secretion, glucagon suppression and delayed gastric emptying, but the gastric component largely adapts over months while the central effect persists, which is why the durable effect is appetite rather than fullness.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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Mar 24, 2026 at 7:03 PM#4
pete_manc_UK said:
The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest.

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

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[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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Mar 25, 2026 at 2:49 AM#5
TrialNerd_Beth said:
PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing.

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth.

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