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Blood pressure normalized — off lisinopril after 8 months on sema

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Dr.BariatricHTX
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Jun 7, 2026 at 5:14 PM#26

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

stefan_berlin said:
...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...

This is a fair point, and I think intellectual honesty requires acknowledging it. GLP-1 agonists in their current form have ~8-10 years of human exposure data. That's not nothing, but it's not 30+ years either.

However: the risk-benefit calculation should also consider the KNOWN long-term effects of untreated obesity — diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, joint destruction, reduced lifespan by 5-10 years.

Uncertainty about GLP-1 long-term safety vs certainty about obesity consequences. The calculus seems clear to me, but reasonable people can disagree.

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Jun 7, 2026 at 11:19 PM#27
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
stefan_berlin said: ...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Jun 8, 2026 at 5:24 AM#28
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
stefan_berlin said: ...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

I understand the concern, but consider this analogy: are we "creating a generation dependent on" blood pressure medication? Cholesterol medication? Thyroid medication?

Obesity is a chronic disease with biological drivers. Treating it with medication is no different from treating any other chronic condition. The "dependency" framing implies weakness or moral failure — neither of which is accurate.

If ongoing medication is what keeps someone healthy, that's successful treatment, not dependency.

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Jun 8, 2026 at 11:29 AM#29
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
stefan_berlin said: ...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

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[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Jun 8, 2026 at 5:34 PM#30
zoe_NC said:
Dr.BariatricHTX said: ...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

Positive "side effect" of cardiovascular risk: my blood pressure dropped so much that I'm now off metoprolol entirely! My cardiologist is thrilled.

If you're on BP meds and losing weight on a GLP-1, monitor your BP at home regularly. Hypotension symptoms (dizziness, lightheadedness when standing) mean your BP meds may need reduction. Don't wait for your next scheduled appointment — call your doctor.

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