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Cerebrolysin — need advice

mark_tokyo Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:12 AM 8 replies 1,845 viewsPage 2 of 2
Dr.SleepRoch
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Aug 5, 2024 at 3:00 PM#6
BenResearch_OR said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

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Dr.PathRoch
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Aug 6, 2024 at 3:18 AM#7
mark_tokyo said:
Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

References:
[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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PeptideChemSF
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Aug 6, 2024 at 3:37 PM#8
Dr.SleepRoch said:
PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing.

Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36). Three key modifications enable its pharmacokinetic profile:

  1. Aib8 substitution: DPP-4 resistance (prevents enzymatic degradation)
  2. Arg34 substitution: improved chemical stability
  3. C18 fatty diacid at Lys26: albumin binding → long half-life

These three modifications transform a peptide with a 2-minute half-life (native GLP-1) into one with a 168-hour half-life (semaglutide). A masterclass in peptide engineering.

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Aug 7, 2024 at 3:56 AM#9

One thing that is still open after nick_newbie’s answer:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

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Aug 9, 2024 at 3:04 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Closing this out: the trough rather than the peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.

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