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5-Amino-1MQ — 12 month update

Dr.ObesityLA Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 7:56 AM 49 replies 2,289 viewsPage 1 of 10
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Dr.ObesityLA
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Jul 22, 2024 at 7:56 AM#1

I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer nobody states.

The question I want answered is which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 8:19 AM#2
Dr.ObesityLA said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

Pharmacist here. I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Key points from a pharmacokinetic standpoint:

  • GLP-1 agonists delay gastric emptying, which can affect Tmax of co-administered oral medications
  • Monitor patients on warfarin (INR), levothyroxine (TSH), and oral contraceptives during dose titration
  • The albumin-binding mechanism of semaglutide (C-18 fatty acid linker) gives it the ~168-hour half-life that enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state is reached at approximately 4-5 weeks after dose initiation or adjustment

Re: the pharmacology specifically — the pharmacology here is well-characterized and the clinical implications are straightforward.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 8:42 AM#3
Dr.MetabolicMD said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Agreeing with Dr.MetabolicMD, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest. Receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus activates POMC neurons and inhibits AgRP/NPY signalling, and the downstream MC4R pathway is the same one disrupted in monogenic obesity — convergent genetic evidence that the target is the right one. Peripherally there is glucose-dependent insulin secretion, glucagon suppression and delayed gastric emptying, but the gastric component largely adapts over months while the central effect persists, which is why the durable effect is appetite rather than fullness.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 9:05 AM#4
Dr.ObesityLA said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud. Nothing to add that would improve it.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 11:10 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

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