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What other peptides are people stacking with their GLP-1 — my results so far

labquiet_amy Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 1:13 PM 14 replies 2,108 viewsPage 1 of 3
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labquiet_amy
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Jun 12, 2024 at 1:13 PM#1

I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer nobody states.

What I am trying to establish is which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Jun 12, 2024 at 2:41 PM#2
labquiet_amy said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36). Three key modifications enable its pharmacokinetic profile:

  1. Aib8 substitution: DPP-4 resistance (prevents enzymatic degradation)
  2. Arg34 substitution: improved chemical stability
  3. C18 fatty diacid at Lys26: albumin binding → long half-life

These three modifications transform a peptide with a 2-minute half-life (native GLP-1) into one with a 168-hour half-life (semaglutide). A masterclass in peptide engineering.

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Jun 12, 2024 at 4:09 PM#3
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36).

Agreeing with Dr.SportsMedIN, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest. Receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus activates POMC neurons and inhibits AgRP/NPY signalling, and the downstream MC4R pathway is the same one disrupted in monogenic obesity — convergent genetic evidence that the target is the right one. Peripherally there is glucose-dependent insulin secretion, glucagon suppression and delayed gastric emptying, but the gastric component largely adapts over months while the central effect persists, which is why the durable effect is appetite rather than fullness.

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Jun 12, 2024 at 5:37 PM#4
labquiet_amy said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

Second this.

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Jun 13, 2024 at 2:09 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].

Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.

For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.

References:
[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
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