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Paid for independent testing and results did not match vendor COA — looking for input

maria_elpaso Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 12:10 AM 14 replies 1,376 viewsPage 2 of 3
NeuroNate
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Aug 8, 2025 at 7:25 AM#6
BenResearch_OR said:
Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

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Dr.AddMedPHL
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Aug 8, 2025 at 10:16 AM#7

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. The four things to check on any report, in order: does it name your batch, who commissioned it, what method was used, and does it report content as well as purity. A report failing any of those is weak evidence regardless of the percentage on it.

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Aug 8, 2025 at 1:07 PM#8
NeuroNate said:
I disagree that testing history is decisive.

Coming at NeuroNate’s question from a different direction. Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself calibrated, the gradient and column, the detection wavelength, and where the integration baseline was drawn. A percentage point or two between competent labs is expected. What is not expected is a large gap, and the usual explanation there is that one report is not of the batch in your hand.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

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Aug 8, 2025 at 3:58 PM#9

Following on from Dr.GutHealth — and this may be the naive question:

What a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake?

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maria_elpaso
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Aug 9, 2025 at 5:39 AM#10

Reporting back.

Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.

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