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Maintenance phase — need advice

AttorneyGrant Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 3:49 AM 12 replies 2,112 viewsPage 3 of 3
COA_Karl
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Jun 16, 2024 at 1:07 PM#11
SleepDoc_PDX said:
Pregnancy after maintenance dosing weight loss: stopped GLP-1 medication 4 months before TTC as recommended.

Epigenetic implications of GLP-1 therapy and maintenance dosing: emerging evidence suggests that sustained weight loss and metabolic improvement may produce epigenetic changes (DNA methylation, histone modification) that persist beyond drug discontinuation[1].

This is speculative but fascinating: could long-term GLP-1 agonist treatment "reprogram" metabolic gene expression? If so, it would explain why some patients maintain weight loss better than others after discontinuation.

More research needed, but the concept of pharmacologically-induced epigenetic remodeling is intellectually exciting.

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[1] Ling C, et al. Diabetologia. 2023;66(6):1078-1093.
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Jun 19, 2024 at 3:26 AM#12
tammy_FL said:
Maintenance phase reality on maintenance dosing: reached my goal 7 months ago and now I'm in maintenance.

This answered a question I did not know how to ask.

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Jun 21, 2024 at 5:44 PM#13
SleepDoc_PDX said:
Pregnancy after maintenance dosing weight loss: stopped GLP-1 medication 4 months before TTC as recommended.
SleepDoc_PDX said:
...the STEP extension data on maintenance dosing is concerning...

Let me offer a different interpretation of the same data. Yes, 2/3 of weight was regained after discontinuation. But consider:

  • This is consistent with EVERY chronic disease medication ever studied
  • 1/3 of patients maintained significant weight loss — who are they and why?
  • The metabolic improvements partially persisted even with weight regain
  • The data supports long-term treatment, not a "course" of therapy

The takeaway isn't "the drug fails when you stop" — it's "chronic diseases require ongoing treatment." We've always known this.

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Jun 24, 2024 at 8:00 AM#14
AttorneyGrant said:
Planning the end of this rather than the middle of it, which nobody around me seems to want to talk about while it is still going well.
AttorneyGrant said:
...I stopped maintenance dosing and regained all the weight...

This is a really important data point and I appreciate your honesty. The STEP 1 extension data showed ~2/3 of weight regain within 12 months of discontinuation.

This doesn't mean the drug "doesn't work" — it means obesity is a chronic disease requiring ongoing treatment, just like hypertension or diabetes. We don't criticize blood pressure meds for "not working" when BP rises after stopping them.

The framing matters. maintenance dosing is a treatment, not a cure. And that's okay.

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Jun 26, 2024 at 10:15 PM#15

Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. Tagging this one for the weekly digest.

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