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COA red flag compilation — what worked for you?

mike_nyc Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:51 PM 36 replies 2,728 viewsPage 2 of 8
Dr.NateNeph
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Mar 22, 2024 at 8:06 AM#6

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. The four things to check on any report, in order: does it name your batch, who commissioned it, what method was used, and does it report content as well as purity. A report failing any of those is weak evidence regardless of the percentage on it.

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Mar 22, 2024 at 11:45 AM#7

Following on from Dr.SurgeonPGH — and this may be the naive question:

How people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out?

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Mar 22, 2024 at 3:24 PM#8
Dr.NateNeph said:
The four things to check on any report, in order: does it name your batch, who commissioned it, what method was used, and does it report content as…

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself calibrated, the gradient and column, the detection wavelength, and where the integration baseline was drawn. A percentage point or two between competent labs is expected. What is not expected is a large gap, and the usual explanation there is that one report is not of the batch in your hand.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Mar 22, 2024 at 7:04 PM#9

Reporting back.

Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.

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sarah_TO said:
Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself…

Agreed, with a caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator. Reports arrive weeks after orders, so a supplier can look excellent for a month after quality has already changed.

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