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Has anyone dealt with are all coas created equal? mine looks different from others i see?

SteveThurs Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:31 PM 36 replies 2,454 viewsPage 1 of 8
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SteveThurs
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Feb 7, 2024 at 7:31 PM#1

I have a certificate reporting 99.2% purity and 6.1mg content on a vial sold as 5mg, and I cannot work out whether those two numbers are consistent or contradictory.

The four things to check on any report, in order: does it name your batch, who commissioned it, what method was used, and does it report content as well as purity. A report failing any of those is weak evidence regardless of the percentage on it.

What I actually want to know is whether a purity figure and a content figure can disagree without one of them being wrong.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Feb 7, 2024 at 7:57 PM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate. Purity is a relative area measurement: the main peak as a percentage of total peak area in the chromatogram. Content is an absolute mass measurement against a reference standard. A vial can be 99% pure and contain 6.1mg — pure material, overfilled — or 99% pure and contain 3mg, which is pure material and a short fill. Purity tells you what fraction of what is there is the right molecule; content tells you how much of it there is. You need both, and a certificate with only purity is telling you half the story.

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Feb 7, 2024 at 8:23 PM#3
BariatricNurseD said:
They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate.

Agreed, and mass spec answers a question purity does not: identity. High purity tells you one thing dominates the chromatogram, not that it is the molecule you ordered. A mass within about a dalton of expected is the identity check.

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Feb 7, 2024 at 8:49 PM#4
SteveThurs said:
I have a certificate reporting 99.2% purity and 6.1mg content on a vial sold as 5mg, and I cannot work out whether those two numbers are consistent or…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The provenance questions are more useful than the numbers. Does the report name the batch on your vial. Is the date consistent with when that batch existed. Is it addressed to the vendor or to the person who paid for the test. Was the sample taken from general stock or supplied by the vendor. A perfect certificate for a different batch is worth nothing, and vendor-supplied samples are the most common way a genuine report ends up misleading.

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Feb 7, 2024 at 11:13 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Third-party testing services for certificates of analysis besides Janoshik:

  • Janoshik: Gold standard for peptide community, ~$125, 10-14 day turnaround
  • Valitech: US-based, ISO 17025 accredited, ~$235
  • Eurofins: Full pharmaceutical testing suite, more expensive but comprehensive
  • ChemTox: Basic identity and purity testing, ~$125

Janoshik is the community standard but any ISO-accredited analytical lab can verify peptide identity and purity. The key is independence — don't rely solely on the vendor's own testing.

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