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Paid for independent testing and results did not match vendor COA — looking for input

PurityPaulOR Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:26 AM 19 replies 2,175 viewsPage 1 of 4
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PurityPaulOR
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Jan 24, 2024 at 4:26 AM#1

Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any single result.

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is what a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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kate.chem
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Jan 24, 2024 at 6:31 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 8:36 AM#3
kate.chem said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Right, and one flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency. Consistency means separate batches, separately commissioned, over months.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 10:41 AM#4
PurityPaulOR said:
Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 11:06 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Vendor reputation tracking for vendor vetting: I maintain a personal spreadsheet with every order I've placed — date, vendor, batch number, Janoshik result, personal efficacy assessment (1-5 scale), and any issues.

After 21 orders across 3 vendors: average purity 98.1%, zero sterility concerns, 1 shipping issues (all resolved). This data gives me confidence in my current source and documentation if issues arise.

I encourage everyone to track their orders systematically. Community data aggregation makes us all safer.

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