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Has anyone dealt with what vendors shut down in 2025? the full list is scary?

TrialNerd_Beth Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 1:34 AM 26 replies 2,047 viewsPage 4 of 6
Dr.EM_Chicago
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Sep 20, 2024 at 12:40 AM#16

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion. Almost every disagreement here turns out to be two people measuring different things and comparing the numbers anyway.

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Sep 20, 2024 at 9:42 PM#17
Dr.EM_Chicago said:
Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.

Careful with the causal language. Two things moving together in a period when five things changed is not a mechanism, and stating it as one makes the thread less useful to somebody reading it later.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

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Sep 21, 2024 at 6:43 PM#18
Dr.EM_Chicago said:
Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.

True, and it depends on a baseline nobody has stated. Without knowing where someone started, the same number can be an excellent result or a disappointing one.

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Sep 22, 2024 at 3:44 PM#19
Dr.EM_Chicago said:
Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.

Bookmarking. The distinction being drawn above is the one nobody else makes. Taking it to my next appointment.

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Sep 23, 2024 at 12:44 PM#20

Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful.

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