JessicaH_TX said:

The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…

I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience. Adherence data on daily orals with timing requirements is consistently worse than weekly injections, and a drug you take imperfectly is a lower dose than the one on the box.

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Worth stating the units and the reference range whenever you post a number here. A large fraction of the apparent disagreement in these threads is two people using different units and both being right.

Happy to go further on any of that.

mike_nyc said:

I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated. Those two sets overlap less than the confident tone of most write-ups suggests, and the second set is where nearly all the disagreement on this board comes from.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

One thing that is still open after james_edin’s answer:

Whether the fasting requirement is as strict in practice as the label implies, and what people actually see when they get it wrong?

Reporting back.

Follow-up: moving the tablet to the moment I wake, before anything else, was the whole fix. The dose never changed.