pete_manc_UK said:

Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all.

I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience. Adherence data on daily orals with timing requirements is consistently worse than weekly injections, and a drug you take imperfectly is a lower dose than the one on the box.

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Keep the original post as written when you update it, and add the correction underneath. An edited-away mistake is invisible to the next person who makes it.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

Dr.PainCLE said:

I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. It helps to ask what evidence would change your mind before you look at any. If nothing would, the discussion is not about evidence, and it is better to say so early than to spend nine posts discovering it.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How much of the oral variability is the SNAC absorption window and how much is dose, because the two get conflated constantly?

Reporting back.

Follow-up: moving the tablet to the moment I wake, before anything else, was the whole fix. The dose never changed.