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ForumsPsychological & BehavioralI stopped wanting wine and I was NOT prepared for that — 6 month update Page 5

I stopped wanting wine and I was NOT prepared for that — 6 month update

AttorneyGrant Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:08 PM 30 replies 1,236 viewsPage 5 of 6
nick_SD_fit
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Dec 7, 2025 at 11:55 AM#21

Following on from carl_compliance — and this may be the naive question:

Was that from a primary source or from a summary of one?

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Dec 17, 2025 at 5:14 AM#22
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.

Pushing back on Dr.SportsMedIN here. I think the framing smuggles in the conclusion. Ask it the other way round and the obvious answer reverses, which usually means the question is doing the work.

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PharmacoVig_BOS
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Dec 26, 2025 at 10:28 PM#23
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. Yes, and the corollary is less popular: if the reasoning holds, it also holds where it produces an answer we do not like.

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Jan 5, 2026 at 3:36 PM#24
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.

This is exactly what I could not find anywhere else. Taking it to my next appointment.

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Jan 15, 2026 at 8:38 AM#25

From the other side of the consultation, briefly. If two explanations both fit, the useful question is which one predicts something the other does not. That is answerable; arguing about which sounds more plausible is not.

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