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Is it normal for the powder to not fully dissolve — my results so far

FitDadDave Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 3:59 PM 9 replies 1,594 viewsPage 2 of 2
RetaRick_CA
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Feb 22, 2025 at 7:03 PM#6
VendorMark said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. A research-chemical supplier selling lyophilised powder labelled research use only is not compounding and is not claiming to. It is a different legal universe with no pharmacy oversight, no patient relationship and no content guarantee, and conflating the two in these threads helps nobody.

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Feb 22, 2025 at 8:14 PM#7
FitDadDave said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

For compounded supply users considering compounded for the first time: here's a step-by-step guide:

  1. Get a prescription from your doctor (telehealth counts)
  2. Research 503B compounding pharmacies with good community reviews
  3. Verify their FDA registration and inspection history
  4. Request a COA for your specific compound before ordering
  5. Start with a 1-month supply to test
  6. Consider sending a sample to Janoshik for independent verification
  7. Track your response compared to brand (if you were on it previously)
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Feb 22, 2025 at 9:25 PM#8
RetaRick_CA said:
A research-chemical supplier selling lyophilised powder labelled research use only is not compounding and is not claiming to.

Beyond-use dating (BUD) for compounded supply compounded products:

Lyophilized (unreconstituted): typically 6 months from compounding date
Reconstituted with BAC water: typically 28-30 days refrigerated
Reconstituted with sterile water: typically 24 hours (no preservative!)

Always use BAC water for multi-dose vials. Sterile water has no preservative and supports bacterial growth after first puncture. This is a common and potentially dangerous mistake.

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Feb 22, 2025 at 10:36 PM#9

One thing that is still open after chris_chi24’s answer:

What actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material?

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Feb 23, 2025 at 4:18 AM#10

Reporting back.

The bulks-list asymmetry was the piece I had missed entirely. It explains why one of my two pharmacies is still arguing it can supply and the other simply stopped.

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