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Is it normal for the powder to not fully dissolve — my results so far

FitDadDave Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 3:59 PM 9 replies 1,594 viewsPage 1 of 2
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Feb 22, 2025 at 3:59 PM#1

Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within weeks of each other.

What I am after is why a shortage listing created a legal pathway at all, since a shortage is a supply fact rather than a permission.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Feb 22, 2025 at 4:13 PM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Feb 22, 2025 at 4:27 PM#3
VendorMark said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Agreed, and the enforcement dates were staggered by category — 503A first, 503B a few weeks later — because outsourcing facilities have manufactured inventory and clinic contracts to unwind while a 503A makes to order.

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Feb 22, 2025 at 4:41 PM#4
FitDadDave said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

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Feb 22, 2025 at 5:52 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Regarding compounded supply compounding legality: compounding pharmacies can legally produce semaglutide and tirzepatide while these drugs remain on the FDA shortage list. If/when the shortage resolves, the legal landscape may change.

Stay informed. The FDA shortage list is updated regularly. Current status as of my last check: semaglutide still in shortage, tirzepatide removed from shortage list. This directly impacts compounding availability.

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