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STEP-HFpEF: semaglutide in heart failure with preserved EF — March 2026

GenomicsKate Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 7:34 PM 38 replies 1,967 viewsPage 1 of 8
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GenomicsKate
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Jun 4, 2025 at 7:34 PM#1

Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

What would genuinely help is knowing how much of the SELECT benefit is plausibly independent of the weight loss, and whether that distinction changes anything practical.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 9:50 PM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. Steady state is the thing most people miss. The terminal half-life is about a week, so every dose step takes four to five weeks to fully express itself. Judging a step at day ten is judging the ascent, not the plateau, and it is the single commonest reason people escalate before they needed to.

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Jun 5, 2025 at 12:06 AM#3
NeuroNate said:
Steady state is the thing most people miss.

That holds for the injectable. The oral formulation has different absorption behaviour and the dose numbers are not interchangeable, which is worth saying out loud because people quote them as if they were.

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Jun 5, 2025 at 2:22 AM#4
GenomicsKate said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

All true, with one condition: that curve is for people who reached the dose on schedule. Anyone who slowed the ladder for tolerability is on a different, flatter curve, and comparing yourself with the published mean will make you feel like a non-responder when you are not.

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Jun 5, 2025 at 3:52 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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