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My dad had a heart attack and now I am terrified - will GLP-1 help? — need advice

Dr.NephBHM_UK Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 5:41 PM 15 replies 1,830 viewsPage 2 of 3
DataDave
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Oct 7, 2024 at 1:43 AM#6
Dr.NephBHM_UK said:
SELECT is the trial that changed the framing of this class, because it was an outcome trial rather than a weight trial: about a 20% relative reduction…

I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

The SELECT trial demonstrated a 20% reduction in MACE with semaglutide 2.4mg[1]. This is practice-changing because the CV benefit appears to be independent of the degree of weight loss — suggesting direct vascular and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

For cardiovascular risk, this means we need to think beyond the primary outcome and consider the cardiovascular implications. The all-cause mortality reduction (HR 0.81) is the most clinically meaningful signal.

References:
[1] Lincoff AM, et al. N Engl J Med. 2023;389(24):2221-2232.
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Oct 7, 2024 at 4:53 AM#7

One thing that is still open after newstart_MO’s answer:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

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Oct 7, 2024 at 8:03 AM#8
DataDave said:
I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk. In 3,297 T2DM patients with high CV risk: MACE HR 0.74 (95% CI 0.58-0.95, p=0.02)[1].

Notable: the retinopathy signal in SUSTAIN-6 (HR 1.76) was subsequently attributed to rapid A1C reduction in patients with pre-existing retinopathy — not a direct drug effect. This has been confirmed in longer-term follow-up studies.

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[1] Marso SP, et al. N Engl J Med. 2016;375(19):1834-1844.
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Oct 7, 2024 at 11:14 AM#9
DataDave said:
I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

References:
[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Oct 8, 2024 at 2:29 AM#10
Dr.RheumBOS said:
SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.

Positive "side effect" of cardiovascular risk: my blood pressure dropped so much that I'm now off lisinopril entirely! My cardiologist is thrilled.

If you're on BP meds and losing weight on a GLP-1, monitor your BP at home regularly. Hypotension symptoms (dizziness, lightheadedness when standing) mean your BP meds may need reduction. Don't wait for your next scheduled appointment — call your doctor.

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