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Arterial stiffness reduction on GLP-1 — July 2024

pat_auckland Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 4:47 PM 47 replies 2,796 viewsPage 1 of 10
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pat_auckland
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Feb 7, 2024 at 4:47 PM#1

Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is how much of the SELECT benefit is plausibly independent of the weight loss, and whether that distinction changes anything practical.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Feb 7, 2024 at 5:07 PM#2
pat_auckland said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Cardiac biomarkers and cardiovascular risk: my cardiologist ordered advanced cardiac labs given my family history. Results were encouraging:

  • NT-proBNP: 49 pg/mL (normal, cardiac function preserved)
  • Lp(a): 39 nmol/L (genetic, unchanged — expected)
  • ApoB: dropped from 154 to 89 mg/dL (excellent response)
  • Coronary calcium score: 0 (unchanged from baseline — reassuring)

The ApoB reduction is particularly meaningful — it's considered the best single predictor of cardiovascular risk. GLP-1 therapy seems to improve this consistently.

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Feb 7, 2024 at 5:27 PM#3
Dr.ObesityMed said:
Cardiac biomarkers and cardiovascular risk: my cardiologist ordered advanced cardiac labs given my family history.

SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk. In 3,297 T2DM patients with high CV risk: MACE HR 0.74 (95% CI 0.58-0.95, p=0.02)[1].

Notable: the retinopathy signal in SUSTAIN-6 (HR 1.76) was subsequently attributed to rapid A1C reduction in patients with pre-existing retinopathy — not a direct drug effect. This has been confirmed in longer-term follow-up studies.

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[1] Marso SP, et al. N Engl J Med. 2016;375(19):1834-1844.
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Feb 7, 2024 at 5:47 PM#4
pat_auckland said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Same pattern here, and in the same order. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Feb 7, 2024 at 7:37 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most:

Baseline hsCRP: 5.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk)
Month 6 hsCRP: 3.5 mg/L (moderate risk)
Month 12 hsCRP: 0.7 mg/L (low risk)

This level of inflammatory marker reduction is comparable to what you'd see with statin therapy. Combined with the weight loss, my 10-year ASCVD risk score dropped from 12% to 6%. My cardiologist is genuinely impressed.

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