Dr.GutHealth said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
Second this. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.
Dr.GutHealth said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.
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Browse GL BiochemA narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
What would you measure differently if you were starting again?
adam_van said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Pushing back on adam_van here. The counter-case has not been addressed. Somebody upthread described the situation that does not fit, and the thread moved on rather than engaging with it, which is the failure mode this board is supposed to avoid.
Worth separating that from retatrutide, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.