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Compounded sema batch testing results — looking for input

PurityPaulOR Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 10:47 AM 32 replies 1,688 viewsPage 1 of 7
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PurityPaulOR
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Oct 20, 2025 at 10:47 AM#1

Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within weeks of each other.

Two things anyone can check: a state licence number for a 503A, and an FDA outsourcing-facility registration for a 503B. Both are publicly searchable, and a pharmacy unwilling to give you either has answered the question.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: what actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 10:54 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:01 AM#3
HPLC_Greg said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Agreed, and the enforcement dates were staggered by category — 503A first, 503B a few weeks later — because outsourcing facilities have manufactured inventory and clinic contracts to unwind while a 503A makes to order.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:08 AM#4
PurityPaulOR said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:43 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

FDA inspection results for compounding pharmacies selling compounded supply: you can look up any 503B facility's FDA inspection history on the FDA website.

Check for: Form 483 observations (violations), warning letters, and recall history. A clean inspection record is a strong indicator of quality. My pharmacy has had 0 Form 483 observations in their last 4 inspections.

This is public information. Use it. Link: fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations

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