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Semaglutide and MASH — anyone have experience?

ChrisMacros Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:57 AM 16 replies 1,692 viewsPage 4 of 4
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Jan 13, 2025 at 1:12 PM#16
Dr.ObesityLA said:
ChrisMacros said: ...but the FDA says semaglutide...

Agreed, and ALT falling is not the same as fibrosis improving. Enzymes are a crude proxy; FIB-4 or elastography is what tells you about the thing that matters.

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Jan 13, 2025 at 10:06 PM#17

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false. If nothing would look different, it is not a claim about the world and no amount of discussion will settle it.

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Jan 14, 2025 at 7:00 AM#18
Dr.PainCLE said:
It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale. Posting only so the count is not one.

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Jan 14, 2025 at 3:54 PM#19
Dr.PainCLE said:
It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The liver data is among the strongest non-weight findings in the class. The semaglutide MASH programme reported a large advantage over placebo on MASH resolution, with a substantial minority also achieving fibrosis improvement — and fibrosis is the endpoint that predicts outcomes. Mechanistically it is reduced hepatic lipogenesis, increased fatty-acid oxidation, less hepatic inflammation, and possibly a direct effect on stellate-cell activation.

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Jan 15, 2025 at 12:48 AM#20

Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. Carry on.

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