This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The honest range is roughly 20 to 40% of total loss as lean mass without deliberate resistance training, and roughly 10 to 20% with it plus adequate protein. Both numbers need a caveat that matters: "lean mass" on a DEXA is not muscle. It includes water, glycogen and the lean fraction of organs, and glycogen alone carries about three grams of water per gram. A large early lean drop is mostly the glycogen and water going, which is why the first scan flatters and the second is the honest one.
Two DEXA scans eleven months apart: down 24kg total, of which the scan says 6kg was lean. I want to know whether that ratio is bad, normal, or simply what happens.
What I am trying to establish is what fraction of loss being lean mass is actually normal, because the numbers quoted here range from 10% to 40% and cannot all be right.
Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.
Dr.PainCLE said:The honest range is roughly 20 to 40% of total loss as lean mass without deliberate resistance training, and roughly 10 to 20% with it plus adequate…
Agreed on the ranges, with the condition that a single DEXA is not a measurement, it is one draw from a distribution. Hydration status moves the lean compartment by a kilogram or more between scans, so any comparison of scans done at different times of day or different hydration states is noise.
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Browse GL BiochemLarryQC_SD said:Two DEXA scans eleven months apart: down 24kg total, of which the scan says 6kg was lean.
Can confirm the pattern LarryQC_SD describes. There is also a quality change that the scan cannot see. Weight loss shifts fiber-type distribution toward Type I and improves mitochondrial density and insulin-stimulated glucose uptake per fiber — so the muscle you keep is metabolically better even though there is less of it. That does not make the loss irrelevant, but it explains why function often holds up better than the number suggests.
That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly.
Body composition tracking via bioimpedance on lean mass (InBody scan every 3 months):
| Metric | Baseline | Month 3 | Month 6 | Month 9 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Skeletal Muscle (lbs) | 74 | 70 | 71 | 70 |
| Body Fat (lbs) | 96 | 74 | 52 | 44 |
| Body Fat % | 38% | 32% | 25% | 20% |
| Visceral Fat (cm²) | 151 | 126 | 86 | 61 |
Note: skeletal muscle mass dipped initially then recovered with consistent resistance training + high protein. The visceral fat reduction is where the metabolic magic happens.