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Semaglutide cardiovascular benefit: SELECT trial deep dive — looking for input

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HPLC_Greg
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Jan 8, 2025 at 8:57 AM#31
KevinCompounds said:
SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Steady state is the thing most people miss. The terminal half-life is about a week, so every dose step takes four to five weeks to fully express itself. Judging a step at day ten is judging the ascent, not the plateau, and it is the single commonest reason people escalate before they needed to.

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Jan 9, 2025 at 4:34 PM#32
KevinCompounds said:
SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.

I'm 58 years old and want to share my perspective on cardiovascular risk as an older member of this community.

My doctor was initially hesitant because of my age, but the SELECT trial included patients up to 72 and showed consistent benefit across age groups. We started at the lowest dose with closer monitoring.

16 months later: down 53 lbs, off lisinopril, A1C from 8.6% to 5.2%. My cardiologist is thrilled. cardiovascular risk is absolutely relevant for older adults — don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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Jan 11, 2025 at 12:11 AM#33

Following on from KevinCompounds — and this may be the naive question:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

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Jan 12, 2025 at 7:47 AM#34
josh_phd_bmore said:
I'm 58 years old and want to share my perspective on cardiovascular risk as an older member of this community.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Jan 13, 2025 at 3:22 PM#35
josh_phd_bmore said:
I'm 58 years old and want to share my perspective on cardiovascular risk as an older member of this community.

Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling, reduces NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreases monocyte/macrophage adhesion to endothelium[1].

Clinical correlates: hsCRP reduction of 30-60% (consistently seen across trials), reduced carotid intima-media thickness, and decreased coronary plaque inflammation on PET imaging.

These anti-inflammatory effects likely contribute to the cardiovascular benefit seen in SELECT — and may explain benefits beyond what weight loss alone would predict.

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[1] Hogan AE, et al. Diabetologia. 2014;57(4):781-784.
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