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Selank and Semax — January 2024

anders_CPH Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 3:10 PM 34 replies 2,716 viewsPage 2 of 7
DoseLogDan
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Mar 23, 2024 at 12:56 AM#6
anders_CPH said:
The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest.

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

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Mar 23, 2024 at 2:26 PM#7

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Did your prescriber agree with that reading, and if not what was their objection?

Last edited: Mar 23, 2024 at 3:26 PM
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Mar 24, 2024 at 3:56 AM#8
DoseLogDan said:
PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing.

Pharmacist here. I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Key points from a pharmacokinetic standpoint:

  • GLP-1 agonists delay gastric emptying, which can affect Tmax of co-administered oral medications
  • Monitor patients on warfarin (INR), levothyroxine (TSH), and oral contraceptives during dose titration
  • The albumin-binding mechanism of semaglutide (C-18 fatty acid linker) gives it the ~168-hour half-life that enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state is reached at approximately 4-5 weeks after dose initiation or adjustment

Re: the pharmacology specifically — the pharmacology here is well-characterized and the clinical implications are straightforward.

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Mar 24, 2024 at 5:27 PM#9

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Update — tachyphylaxis to the gastric effect, persistence of the appetite effect. Two curves, and I had been watching the wrong one.

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Mar 27, 2024 at 10:19 AM#10
Dr.CardioMD said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

References:
[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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