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Compounded sema batch testing results — need advice

steve_okc Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 7:49 AM 14 replies 1,952 viewsPage 1 of 3
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steve_okc
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Aug 30, 2024 at 7:49 AM#1

Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within weeks of each other.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: why a shortage listing created a legal pathway at all, since a shortage is a supply fact rather than a permission.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 8:45 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 9:41 AM#3
DataDave said:
They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things.

No disagreement with DataDave. One condition attached. Worth adding the genuine exception, because it is real and narrow: a change made for an identified patient where the prescriber determines it produces a significant clinical difference for that patient. A grid of fixed doses offered to everybody is not that, whatever the intake form says.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 10:37 AM#4
steve_okc said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists. For 503B the shortage clause was the only route to these molecules, so that route shut completely. A 503A pharmacy can still argue a doorway via "component of an approved drug" — but only for the substance in the form present in the approved product, which is exactly where the base-versus-salt argument lives, and it does nothing about the copy restriction, which came back into force on resolution.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 3:59 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Compounding pharmacy licensing verification for compounded supply: before ordering, verify your pharmacy's credentials:

  1. State Board of Pharmacy license — check on your state BOP website
  2. FDA registration (for 503B) — check on fda.gov
  3. DEA registration if handling controlled substances
  4. PCAB accreditation — voluntary but demonstrates commitment to quality
  5. USP <797>/<800> compliance for sterile compounding

This takes 10 minutes of research and could save you from receiving substandard or unsafe medication.

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