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Can I drink on sema or will I die — need advice

Dr.LeslieOBGYN Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:47 AM 14 replies 2,106 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Dr.LeslieOBGYN
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Jan 24, 2024 at 4:47 AM#1

I moved from brand to compounded semaglutide at the same nominal dose and cannot decide whether what changed is the material, my titration, or my expectations.

What would genuinely help is knowing whether anyone has held at a sub-maximal dose long term and kept the result, or whether the maintenance data only exists at 2.4mg.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 5:08 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. The dose-response is real but shallow at the top. Across STEP 1 and STEP 4 the gap between 1.7mg and 2.4mg is a couple of percentage points of body weight on average, and the average is carrying a wide spread — plenty of people at 1.7mg sit above the 2.4mg mean. If a dose is working and tolerable, "working" is the relevant variable, not "maximal".

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Jan 24, 2024 at 5:29 AM#3
Dr.ObesityMed said:
The dose-response is real but shallow at the top.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. Steady state is the thing most people miss. The terminal half-life is about a week, so every dose step takes four to five weeks to fully express itself. Judging a step at day ten is judging the ascent, not the plateau, and it is the single commonest reason people escalate before they needed to.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 5:50 AM#4
Dr.LeslieOBGYN said:
I moved from brand to compounded semaglutide at the same nominal dose and cannot decide whether what changed is the material, my titration, or my…

All true, with one condition: that curve is for people who reached the dose on schedule. Anyone who slowed the ladder for tolerability is on a different, flatter curve, and comparing yourself with the published mean will make you feel like a non-responder when you are not.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 7:45 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Dr.LeslieOBGYN said:
...but the FDA says semaglutide...

Interesting point. I want to add some regulatory nuance: the FDA labeling reflects the specific clinical trial data submitted for approval. Real-world clinical practice often extends beyond the FDA label based on emerging evidence and clinical judgment.

Example: semaglutide was first approved for diabetes (Ozempic), then obesity (Wegovy). The molecule didn't change — our understanding of its applications expanded. Similarly, semaglutide may evolve as more data accumulates.

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