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Recovery optimization on GLP-1 — need advice

MarkLI_maint Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM 8 replies 1,913 viewsPage 1 of 2
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MarkLI_maint
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May 16, 2024 at 12:55 PM#1

I lifted three times a week throughout and still lost lean mass. Not as much as I expected to, but the idea that training prevents it entirely is not what my scan says.

If you are tracking this properly: same scanner, same time of day, same hydration, at least six months apart, and read grip strength or a lift number alongside it. Function is the outcome; the scan is the proxy.

The question I want answered is whether resistance training and protein change the ratio or only the absolute amount.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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May 16, 2024 at 1:07 PM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, and not making the deficit larger than the training can support. Cardio does not protect lean mass and in a deep deficit competes with recovery.

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May 16, 2024 at 1:19 PM#3
Dr.MetabolicMD said:
The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0…

Agreed on the ranges, with the condition that a single DEXA is not a measurement, it is one draw from a distribution. Hydration status moves the lean compartment by a kilogram or more between scans, so any comparison of scans done at different times of day or different hydration states is noise.

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May 16, 2024 at 1:31 PM#4
MarkLI_maint said:
I lifted three times a week throughout and still lost lean mass.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. The honest range is roughly 20 to 40% of total loss as lean mass without deliberate resistance training, and roughly 10 to 20% with it plus adequate protein. Both numbers need a caveat that matters: "lean mass" on a DEXA is not muscle. It includes water, glycogen and the lean fraction of organs, and glycogen alone carries about three grams of water per gram. A large early lean drop is mostly the glycogen and water going, which is why the first scan flatters and the second is the honest one.

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May 16, 2024 at 2:36 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Regarding lean mass: I accidentally injected my dose intramuscularly instead of subcutaneously last week (went in at wrong angle, too deep). Called my pharmacist — they said it's not dangerous but may absorb faster, potentially causing more GI effects.

Sure enough, had worse nausea that day. Lesson learned: pinch the skin properly and use the right needle length for your body composition.

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